Feb. 23, 2025
Fiction Podcasts: Their History, Evolution, and My Journey Creating One

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In this episode, I dive into the world of fiction podcasts, exploring their history, evolution, and my personal journey in creating one.
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This is Podcasting where I'm on a quest to conquer the podcasting realm, and I'm bringing
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00:00:07,520 --> 00:00:14,720
you along for the journey to help you achieve your own podcasting success.
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00:00:14,720 --> 00:00:16,720
What's going on and welcome back to Podcasting.
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00:00:16,720 --> 00:00:22,000
It's been a while since my last episode, and I'm excited to be here again with you today,
5
00:00:22,000 --> 00:00:27,240
and we're diving into something that has taken a lot of my energy lately, and that is Fiction
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Podcast.
7
00:00:28,240 --> 00:00:32,560
But first, let me catch you up to where I've been, so since my last episode I've been busy
8
00:00:32,560 --> 00:00:37,280
between a new job, the holidays, and focusing on my other podcasts.
9
00:00:37,280 --> 00:00:40,120
So I've had to take a step back from podcasting.
10
00:00:40,120 --> 00:00:44,760
Now one of the projects I've been working on is a fiction podcast originally called
11
00:00:44,760 --> 00:00:46,340
Jack's Chronicles.
12
00:00:46,340 --> 00:00:51,840
It has since evolved into the Jack Moore Chronicles, and later in the episode I will share why
13
00:00:51,840 --> 00:00:53,640
I made that title change.
14
00:00:53,640 --> 00:01:00,880
So first, let's dive into a little background into fiction podcasts.
15
00:01:00,880 --> 00:01:04,520
So fiction podcasts or audio dramas are not a new concept.
16
00:01:04,520 --> 00:01:09,720
They've been around for a long time, dating back to the golden age of radio.
17
00:01:09,720 --> 00:01:15,300
Thanks to the rise of podcasting, audio dramas are experiencing a major comeback.
18
00:01:15,300 --> 00:01:21,040
Shows like Welcome to the Night Veil and the Magnus Archives have garnered a massive following,
19
00:01:21,040 --> 00:01:23,620
bringing new attention to the genre.
20
00:01:23,620 --> 00:01:28,280
Fiction podcasts may feel like a new trend, but they have deep roots in the history of
21
00:01:28,280 --> 00:01:30,080
audio storytelling.
22
00:01:30,080 --> 00:01:35,280
Before podcasts ever existed, radio dramas were the original form of serialized audio
23
00:01:35,280 --> 00:01:53,600
entertainment, with shows like The War of the Worlds and The Shadow.
24
00:01:53,600 --> 00:02:11,120
Over time, the popularity of radio dramas waned as television became the dominant medium
25
00:02:11,120 --> 00:02:12,560
for entertainment.
26
00:02:12,560 --> 00:02:18,960
However, the storytelling techniques and creative spirit of those early audio dramas never
27
00:02:18,960 --> 00:02:20,400
truly disappeared.
28
00:02:20,400 --> 00:02:24,680
Instead, they found a new home with the advent of audiobooks.
29
00:02:24,680 --> 00:02:29,880
Audiobooks surged in popularity thanks to advancements in recording technology and the
30
00:02:29,880 --> 00:02:32,600
convenience of listening on the go.
31
00:02:32,600 --> 00:02:38,360
Classic novels and contemporary bestsellers were suddenly more accessible to busy readers,
32
00:02:38,360 --> 00:02:42,160
leading to an audiobook boom that continues to this day.
33
00:02:42,160 --> 00:02:47,600
Platforms like Audible have helped bring storytelling into people's daily routines,
34
00:02:47,600 --> 00:02:52,000
whether during a commute, workout, or while cooking dinner.
35
00:02:52,000 --> 00:02:53,920
Enter the era of podcasts.
36
00:02:53,920 --> 00:03:00,200
With the rise of podcasting in the mid-2000s, fiction audio dramas began to make a significant
37
00:03:00,200 --> 00:03:01,200
comeback.
38
00:03:01,200 --> 00:03:06,480
What's particularly fascinating is that fiction podcasts are evolving as an art form.
39
00:03:06,480 --> 00:03:09,400
They're no longer just stories with sound effects.
40
00:03:09,400 --> 00:03:11,820
They're experiments in storytelling.
41
00:03:11,820 --> 00:03:17,200
This historical evolution is what inspired me to explore the world of fiction podcasting.
42
00:03:17,200 --> 00:03:22,200
Knowing the rich legacy of audio storytelling made me want to take on the challenge of creating
43
00:03:22,200 --> 00:03:24,520
something uniquely my own.
44
00:03:24,520 --> 00:03:28,360
And that's exactly what I'll dive into for the rest of this episode.
45
00:03:28,360 --> 00:03:32,320
Now if you've listened to past episodes of podcasting, you know I've discussed the overall
46
00:03:32,320 --> 00:03:35,220
growth of the podcasting genre before.
47
00:03:35,220 --> 00:03:39,680
If you're interested in learning more about that, I recommend checking out those episodes
48
00:03:39,680 --> 00:03:43,000
and doing some research, particularly look into Edison Research.
49
00:03:43,000 --> 00:03:49,000
I always recommend them on this podcast for more podcast research and statistics.
50
00:03:49,000 --> 00:03:53,700
According to their latest studies, fiction podcasts have seen an increase in listenership
51
00:03:53,700 --> 00:03:58,440
over the past few years, with no signs of slowing down.
52
00:03:58,440 --> 00:04:00,480
So what's driving this growth?
53
00:04:00,480 --> 00:04:05,260
One reason is that listeners are creating more immersive and creative content.
54
00:04:05,260 --> 00:04:10,520
Fiction podcasts offer escapism and a way to experience stories in a deeply personal
55
00:04:10,520 --> 00:04:11,520
way.
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00:04:11,520 --> 00:04:17,040
Through the use of sound effects, voice acting, and layered storytelling.
57
00:04:17,040 --> 00:04:20,160
My fiction podcast journey began almost by accident.
58
00:04:20,160 --> 00:04:24,280
I started writing just for fun and the first episode was born.
59
00:04:24,280 --> 00:04:29,960
I didn't initially plan on creating a full-fledged fiction podcast, but once I uploaded the first
60
00:04:29,960 --> 00:04:33,680
chapter I realized how much I enjoyed the process.
61
00:04:33,680 --> 00:04:38,640
At first it was just an experiment, a way to scratch that creative itch if you will,
62
00:04:38,640 --> 00:04:42,520
but as I continued writing I found myself getting more invested in the characters and
63
00:04:42,520 --> 00:04:44,040
the world I was building.
64
00:04:44,040 --> 00:04:48,800
I'm sure if you're a writer you can relate to the filling of a story taking on its own
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00:04:48,800 --> 00:04:50,200
life.
66
00:04:50,200 --> 00:04:54,720
One unique aspect of my podcast is the way I'm approaching storytelling.
67
00:04:54,720 --> 00:04:59,480
I write one chapter at a time and only move on to the next chapter after I release the
68
00:04:59,480 --> 00:05:00,680
current one.
69
00:05:00,680 --> 00:05:06,160
This makes the story feel more improvised and I love not knowing what will happen next
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00:05:06,160 --> 00:05:07,920
along with the listener.
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00:05:07,920 --> 00:05:12,240
I'm also considering ways to involve listeners in the storytelling process.
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00:05:12,240 --> 00:05:14,920
If you have any suggestions let me know.
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00:05:14,920 --> 00:05:21,120
Perhaps they can help shape future chapters by submitting ideas or voting on plot twists.
74
00:05:21,120 --> 00:05:25,600
So as I teased in the beginning, let's talk about the title change.
75
00:05:25,600 --> 00:05:30,320
Originally the podcast was called Jack's Chronicles, however after doing some research I discovered
76
00:05:30,320 --> 00:05:33,940
several other books and projects with similar titles.
77
00:05:33,940 --> 00:05:39,360
To improve search engine optimization and stand out I changed the name to the Jack Moore
78
00:05:39,360 --> 00:05:40,360
Chronicles.
79
00:05:40,360 --> 00:05:46,400
Not a big change, but a change enough to set the title apart from the other Jack Chronicles
80
00:05:46,400 --> 00:05:47,800
things that are out there.
81
00:05:47,800 --> 00:05:52,440
Hopefully this change will make it easier for new listeners to find the show.
82
00:05:52,440 --> 00:05:56,040
Changing the title wasn't an easy decision.
83
00:05:56,040 --> 00:05:58,520
Titles carry a lot of weight, especially in storytelling.
84
00:05:58,520 --> 00:06:03,600
I wanted something that felt unique and also hinted at the story's mysterious and evolving
85
00:06:03,600 --> 00:06:05,320
nature.
86
00:06:05,320 --> 00:06:08,820
Fiction podcasts differ from other genres in several ways.
87
00:06:08,820 --> 00:06:14,440
They often require more scripting, sound design and editing compared to conventional or interview
88
00:06:14,440 --> 00:06:16,260
based podcasts.
89
00:06:16,260 --> 00:06:21,060
The immersive nature of audio dramas makes them a truly unique medium for storytelling.
90
00:06:21,060 --> 00:06:24,760
One major difference is the importance of sound effects in music.
91
00:06:24,760 --> 00:06:29,720
These elements help set the tone and create a more vivid mental picture for listeners.
92
00:06:29,720 --> 00:06:33,620
If you're a writer, you might be wondering if a fiction podcast is worth it.
93
00:06:33,620 --> 00:06:37,000
In my very limited experience it absolutely is.
94
00:06:37,000 --> 00:06:41,860
It provides motivation to keep writing and acts as a built in deadline if you commit
95
00:06:41,860 --> 00:06:44,960
to uploading episodes on a regular schedule.
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It's a great way to hone your storytelling skills while sharing your work with an audience.
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Fiction podcasts also offer a unique opportunity to experiment with serialized storytelling.
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You can test out new ideas, develop characters over time and see how your audience responds.
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It's a dynamic and evolving process that can help you grow as a writer.
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So should you start a fiction podcast?
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If you love stories and want to explore a creative medium, I say go for it.
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The genre is growing and people are hungry for new engaging narratives.
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Just be prepared for the work that goes into it.
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It's not just about writing, you'll also need to focus on recording, editing, marketing,
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film design and a whole lot more.
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So since my last episode of podquesting, I've been focusing almost exclusively on the Jack
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Moore Chronicles, releasing one chapter per month.
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This schedule has been manageable with my full time job, but I'm working on putting
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together a stricter schedule so I can release more episodes across my different podcasts.
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Both podquesting and curiosity overload have taken a backseat, but I wanted to continue
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producing episodes for both shows.
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I'm also considering launching another fiction podcast, which I think I could handle if I
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released episodes once a month or even less frequently.
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Balancing the desire to run multiple podcasts and build a podcast network while working
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full time is a challenge, but it's part of the quest I'm on and I'm working really hard
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to overcome it.
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Some strategies that have helped me include setting clear priorities, blocking out dedicated,
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time and learning to say no to projects that don't align with my goals.
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It's all about finding what works for you.
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So thank you for joining me on this episode of podquesting.
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If you're interested in fiction podcasts or thinking about starting your own, I hope this
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episode gave you some insights.
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Don't forget to check out the Jack Moore Chronicles on anywhere you listen to podcasts and my other
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shows if you haven't already.
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Until next time, thanks for listening to this episode of podquesting.
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If you are a podcaster looking to join a network of like-minded individuals growing their podcasts
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and embarking on this quest, well check out WolfShield.media.
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There's an application on the website where you can apply to be part of a pack.
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Again, that is WolfShield.media to check out that application.
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Until next time, keep on questing.
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This is Podcasting where I'm on a quest to conquer the podcasting realm, and I'm bringing
2
00:00:07,520 --> 00:00:14,720
you along for the journey to help you achieve your own podcasting success.
3
00:00:14,720 --> 00:00:16,720
What's going on and welcome back to Podcasting.
4
00:00:16,720 --> 00:00:22,000
It's been a while since my last episode, and I'm excited to be here again with you today,
5
00:00:22,000 --> 00:00:27,240
and we're diving into something that has taken a lot of my energy lately, and that is Fiction
6
00:00:27,240 --> 00:00:28,240
Podcast.
7
00:00:28,240 --> 00:00:32,560
But first, let me catch you up to where I've been, so since my last episode I've been busy
8
00:00:32,560 --> 00:00:37,280
between a new job, the holidays, and focusing on my other podcasts.
9
00:00:37,280 --> 00:00:40,120
So I've had to take a step back from podcasting.
10
00:00:40,120 --> 00:00:44,760
Now one of the projects I've been working on is a fiction podcast originally called
11
00:00:44,760 --> 00:00:46,340
Jack's Chronicles.
12
00:00:46,340 --> 00:00:51,840
It has since evolved into the Jack Moore Chronicles, and later in the episode I will share why
13
00:00:51,840 --> 00:00:53,640
I made that title change.
14
00:00:53,640 --> 00:01:00,880
So first, let's dive into a little background into fiction podcasts.
15
00:01:00,880 --> 00:01:04,520
So fiction podcasts or audio dramas are not a new concept.
16
00:01:04,520 --> 00:01:09,720
They've been around for a long time, dating back to the golden age of radio.
17
00:01:09,720 --> 00:01:15,300
Thanks to the rise of podcasting, audio dramas are experiencing a major comeback.
18
00:01:15,300 --> 00:01:21,040
Shows like Welcome to the Night Veil and the Magnus Archives have garnered a massive following,
19
00:01:21,040 --> 00:01:23,620
bringing new attention to the genre.
20
00:01:23,620 --> 00:01:28,280
Fiction podcasts may feel like a new trend, but they have deep roots in the history of
21
00:01:28,280 --> 00:01:30,080
audio storytelling.
22
00:01:30,080 --> 00:01:35,280
Before podcasts ever existed, radio dramas were the original form of serialized audio
23
00:01:35,280 --> 00:01:53,600
entertainment, with shows like The War of the Worlds and The Shadow.
24
00:01:53,600 --> 00:02:11,120
Over time, the popularity of radio dramas waned as television became the dominant medium
25
00:02:11,120 --> 00:02:12,560
for entertainment.
26
00:02:12,560 --> 00:02:18,960
However, the storytelling techniques and creative spirit of those early audio dramas never
27
00:02:18,960 --> 00:02:20,400
truly disappeared.
28
00:02:20,400 --> 00:02:24,680
Instead, they found a new home with the advent of audiobooks.
29
00:02:24,680 --> 00:02:29,880
Audiobooks surged in popularity thanks to advancements in recording technology and the
30
00:02:29,880 --> 00:02:32,600
convenience of listening on the go.
31
00:02:32,600 --> 00:02:38,360
Classic novels and contemporary bestsellers were suddenly more accessible to busy readers,
32
00:02:38,360 --> 00:02:42,160
leading to an audiobook boom that continues to this day.
33
00:02:42,160 --> 00:02:47,600
Platforms like Audible have helped bring storytelling into people's daily routines,
34
00:02:47,600 --> 00:02:52,000
whether during a commute, workout, or while cooking dinner.
35
00:02:52,000 --> 00:02:53,920
Enter the era of podcasts.
36
00:02:53,920 --> 00:03:00,200
With the rise of podcasting in the mid-2000s, fiction audio dramas began to make a significant
37
00:03:00,200 --> 00:03:01,200
comeback.
38
00:03:01,200 --> 00:03:06,480
What's particularly fascinating is that fiction podcasts are evolving as an art form.
39
00:03:06,480 --> 00:03:09,400
They're no longer just stories with sound effects.
40
00:03:09,400 --> 00:03:11,820
They're experiments in storytelling.
41
00:03:11,820 --> 00:03:17,200
This historical evolution is what inspired me to explore the world of fiction podcasting.
42
00:03:17,200 --> 00:03:22,200
Knowing the rich legacy of audio storytelling made me want to take on the challenge of creating
43
00:03:22,200 --> 00:03:24,520
something uniquely my own.
44
00:03:24,520 --> 00:03:28,360
And that's exactly what I'll dive into for the rest of this episode.
45
00:03:28,360 --> 00:03:32,320
Now if you've listened to past episodes of podcasting, you know I've discussed the overall
46
00:03:32,320 --> 00:03:35,220
growth of the podcasting genre before.
47
00:03:35,220 --> 00:03:39,680
If you're interested in learning more about that, I recommend checking out those episodes
48
00:03:39,680 --> 00:03:43,000
and doing some research, particularly look into Edison Research.
49
00:03:43,000 --> 00:03:49,000
I always recommend them on this podcast for more podcast research and statistics.
50
00:03:49,000 --> 00:03:53,700
According to their latest studies, fiction podcasts have seen an increase in listenership
51
00:03:53,700 --> 00:03:58,440
over the past few years, with no signs of slowing down.
52
00:03:58,440 --> 00:04:00,480
So what's driving this growth?
53
00:04:00,480 --> 00:04:05,260
One reason is that listeners are creating more immersive and creative content.
54
00:04:05,260 --> 00:04:10,520
Fiction podcasts offer escapism and a way to experience stories in a deeply personal
55
00:04:10,520 --> 00:04:11,520
way.
56
00:04:11,520 --> 00:04:17,040
Through the use of sound effects, voice acting, and layered storytelling.
57
00:04:17,040 --> 00:04:20,160
My fiction podcast journey began almost by accident.
58
00:04:20,160 --> 00:04:24,280
I started writing just for fun and the first episode was born.
59
00:04:24,280 --> 00:04:29,960
I didn't initially plan on creating a full-fledged fiction podcast, but once I uploaded the first
60
00:04:29,960 --> 00:04:33,680
chapter I realized how much I enjoyed the process.
61
00:04:33,680 --> 00:04:38,640
At first it was just an experiment, a way to scratch that creative itch if you will,
62
00:04:38,640 --> 00:04:42,520
but as I continued writing I found myself getting more invested in the characters and
63
00:04:42,520 --> 00:04:44,040
the world I was building.
64
00:04:44,040 --> 00:04:48,800
I'm sure if you're a writer you can relate to the filling of a story taking on its own
65
00:04:48,800 --> 00:04:50,200
life.
66
00:04:50,200 --> 00:04:54,720
One unique aspect of my podcast is the way I'm approaching storytelling.
67
00:04:54,720 --> 00:04:59,480
I write one chapter at a time and only move on to the next chapter after I release the
68
00:04:59,480 --> 00:05:00,680
current one.
69
00:05:00,680 --> 00:05:06,160
This makes the story feel more improvised and I love not knowing what will happen next
70
00:05:06,160 --> 00:05:07,920
along with the listener.
71
00:05:07,920 --> 00:05:12,240
I'm also considering ways to involve listeners in the storytelling process.
72
00:05:12,240 --> 00:05:14,920
If you have any suggestions let me know.
73
00:05:14,920 --> 00:05:21,120
Perhaps they can help shape future chapters by submitting ideas or voting on plot twists.
74
00:05:21,120 --> 00:05:25,600
So as I teased in the beginning, let's talk about the title change.
75
00:05:25,600 --> 00:05:30,320
Originally the podcast was called Jack's Chronicles, however after doing some research I discovered
76
00:05:30,320 --> 00:05:33,940
several other books and projects with similar titles.
77
00:05:33,940 --> 00:05:39,360
To improve search engine optimization and stand out I changed the name to the Jack Moore
78
00:05:39,360 --> 00:05:40,360
Chronicles.
79
00:05:40,360 --> 00:05:46,400
Not a big change, but a change enough to set the title apart from the other Jack Chronicles
80
00:05:46,400 --> 00:05:47,800
things that are out there.
81
00:05:47,800 --> 00:05:52,440
Hopefully this change will make it easier for new listeners to find the show.
82
00:05:52,440 --> 00:05:56,040
Changing the title wasn't an easy decision.
83
00:05:56,040 --> 00:05:58,520
Titles carry a lot of weight, especially in storytelling.
84
00:05:58,520 --> 00:06:03,600
I wanted something that felt unique and also hinted at the story's mysterious and evolving
85
00:06:03,600 --> 00:06:05,320
nature.
86
00:06:05,320 --> 00:06:08,820
Fiction podcasts differ from other genres in several ways.
87
00:06:08,820 --> 00:06:14,440
They often require more scripting, sound design and editing compared to conventional or interview
88
00:06:14,440 --> 00:06:16,260
based podcasts.
89
00:06:16,260 --> 00:06:21,060
The immersive nature of audio dramas makes them a truly unique medium for storytelling.
90
00:06:21,060 --> 00:06:24,760
One major difference is the importance of sound effects in music.
91
00:06:24,760 --> 00:06:29,720
These elements help set the tone and create a more vivid mental picture for listeners.
92
00:06:29,720 --> 00:06:33,620
If you're a writer, you might be wondering if a fiction podcast is worth it.
93
00:06:33,620 --> 00:06:37,000
In my very limited experience it absolutely is.
94
00:06:37,000 --> 00:06:41,860
It provides motivation to keep writing and acts as a built in deadline if you commit
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to uploading episodes on a regular schedule.
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It's a great way to hone your storytelling skills while sharing your work with an audience.
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Fiction podcasts also offer a unique opportunity to experiment with serialized storytelling.
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You can test out new ideas, develop characters over time and see how your audience responds.
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It's a dynamic and evolving process that can help you grow as a writer.
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So should you start a fiction podcast?
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If you love stories and want to explore a creative medium, I say go for it.
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The genre is growing and people are hungry for new engaging narratives.
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Just be prepared for the work that goes into it.
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It's not just about writing, you'll also need to focus on recording, editing, marketing,
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film design and a whole lot more.
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So since my last episode of podquesting, I've been focusing almost exclusively on the Jack
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Moore Chronicles, releasing one chapter per month.
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This schedule has been manageable with my full time job, but I'm working on putting
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together a stricter schedule so I can release more episodes across my different podcasts.
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Both podquesting and curiosity overload have taken a backseat, but I wanted to continue
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producing episodes for both shows.
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I'm also considering launching another fiction podcast, which I think I could handle if I
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released episodes once a month or even less frequently.
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Balancing the desire to run multiple podcasts and build a podcast network while working
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full time is a challenge, but it's part of the quest I'm on and I'm working really hard
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to overcome it.
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Some strategies that have helped me include setting clear priorities, blocking out dedicated,
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time and learning to say no to projects that don't align with my goals.
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It's all about finding what works for you.
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So thank you for joining me on this episode of podquesting.
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If you're interested in fiction podcasts or thinking about starting your own, I hope this
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episode gave you some insights.
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Don't forget to check out the Jack Moore Chronicles on anywhere you listen to podcasts and my other
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shows if you haven't already.
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Until next time, thanks for listening to this episode of podquesting.
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If you are a podcaster looking to join a network of like-minded individuals growing their podcasts
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and embarking on this quest, well check out WolfShield.media.
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There's an application on the website where you can apply to be part of a pack.
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Again, that is WolfShield.media to check out that application.
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Until next time, keep on questing.